Response 893485068

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General observations

1. Considering the draft guidance overall, to what extent does it meet the following criteria?

Comprehensible – it is clear to me what happens
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Transparent – the activities are explained well and will take place as publicly as possible
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Proportionate – the guidance strikes the right balance between detail as to what should happen, and flexibility to allow for different local circumstances
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
How would you improve?
bespoke it to the target audience ! I am a person living in St Albans - luton airport is blasting me with planes that never used to fly over my house - your document is was too long and general for me to engage with...in fact its designed to force me not to engage. Having given it 20minutes of my time - I still don't understand how it relates to the changes that have clearly happened above my house with NO CONSULTATION at all - so now you are consulting me? but not telling me what you propose just how you will do it? so how can I argue with a load of processes - I want to know how you will listen to me as a newly affected person who doesn't live near an airport now getting blasted.
General observations
You state actual turnaround of monitoring periods will be short - i.e. a month? when I asked why planes had be diverted over my house when I don't live near luton airport - and hasn't suffered for the 1st 12 years of living in St Albans - I was told "It depends open the weather/ high altitude winds/ general air traffic conditions in the south east" How does such as small consultation window reflect all of these potential scenarios? I may be living with the resulting changes for years on end and in the month that gets monitored there's no way all will be taken into account. Will consultation involve someone putting a noise meter in my bedroom/garden? I had a plane go right over me 2:30am the other night - on the maps luton airport send out it never existed "we don't have planes until 6:30am" Like the fire safety if tower blocks - there's a lot of pretending to engage with people and not a lot of listening to people with this consultation - and your document is damming in length, breadth, its lack of clarity and non use of plain English where a process diagram will do.

Tier 1a: Stages 1 to 7

2. Considering Stage 1 (Define) of the process , to what extent does the draft guidance on that stage meet the following criteria?

Comprehensible – it is clear to me what happens
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Transparent – the activities are explained well and will take place as publicly as possible
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Proportionate – the guidance strikes the right balance between detail as to what should happen, and flexibility to allow for different local circumstances
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
How to improve
plain English targeted at me as a affected resident in St Albans please i.e. my county,hertfordshire, makes no money from Bedfordshires luton airport but yet they blast us with their dirty noise planes.

3. Considering Stage 2 (Develop and assess) of the process, to what extent does the draft guidance on that stage meet the following criteria?

Comprehensible – it is clear to me what happens
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Transparent – the activities are explained well and will take place as publicly as possible
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Proportionate – the guidance strikes the right balance between detail as to what should happen, and flexibility to allow for different local circumstances
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
How to improve
plain English targeted at me as a affected resident in St Albans please i.e. my county,hertfordshire, makes no money from Bedfordshires luton airport but yet they blast us with their dirty noise planes.

4. Considering Stage 3 (Consult) of the process, to what extent does the draft guidance on that stage meet the following criteria?

Comprehensible – it is clear to me what happens
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Transparent – the activities are explained well and will take place as publicly as possible
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Proportionate – the guidance strikes the right balance between detail as to what should happen, and flexibility to allow for different local circumstances
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
How to improve
your consultation window is tiny - it takes longer to read this document that you will be monitoring the noise over my house when luton airport say there are many weather and general traffic states that affect planes they send over us

5. Considering Stage 4 (Update and submit) of the process, to what extent does the draft guidance on that stage meet the following criteria?

Comprehensible – it is clear to me what happens
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Transparent – the activities are explained well and will take place as publicly as possible
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Proportionate – the guidance strikes the right balance between detail as to what should happen, and flexibility to allow for different local circumstances
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
How to improve
plain English targeted at me as a affected resident in St Albans please i.e. my county,hertfordshire, makes no money from Bedfordshires luton airport but yet they blast us with their dirty noise planes.

6. Considering Stage 5 (Decide) of the process, to what extent does the draft guidance on that stage meet the following criteria?

Comprehensible – it is clear to me what happens
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Transparent – the activities are explained well and will take place as publicly as possible
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Proportionate – the guidance strikes the right balance between detail as to what should happen, and flexibility to allow for different local circumstances
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
How to improve
plain English targeted at me as a affected resident in St Albans please i.e. my county,hertfordshire, makes no money from Bedfordshires luton airport but yet they blast us with their dirty noise planes.

7. Considering Stage 6 (Implement) of the process, to what extent does the draft guidance on that stage meet the following criteria?

Comprehensible – it is clear to me what happens
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Transparent – the activities are explained well and will take place as publicly as possible
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Proportionate – the guidance strikes the right balance between detail as to what should happen, and flexibility to allow for different local circumstances
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
How to improve
planes should not be allowed ruin our lives in St Albans - we chose to live away from luton/stanstead/gatwick and Heathrow - they have no right to pollute our skies with their profiteering dirt and noise

8. Considering Stage 7 (Post-implementation review) of the process, to what extent does the draft guidance on that stage meet the following criteria?

Comprehensible – it is clear to me what happens
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Transparent – the activities are explained well and will take place as publicly as possible
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Proportionate – the guidance strikes the right balance between detail as to what should happen, and flexibility to allow for different local circumstances
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
How to improve
plain English targeted at me as a affected resident in St Albans please i.e. my county,hertfordshire, makes no money from Bedfordshires luton airport but yet they blast us with their dirty noise planes.

Tier 1a: Evidence of engagement

9. At certain stages in the process (starting with the development of design principles at Step 1b) the CAA will look for evidence of a two-way conversation to see that the sponsor has adequately engaged stakeholders. In paragraph C9 the CAA describes the evidence that we will look for as "detail of what sponsors have been told by their audiences; how they responded to this feedback; and how it has affected the proposals they are bringing forward".    Has the CAA adequately detailed what we would expect to see to know that a two-way conversation has taken place?

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Yes
Ticked No
Don't know
What else to show two way conversation?
come measure any affects in st albans - 24hrs a day as planes are sent all night, publish these openly on the web -= allow residents to ask for their own local monitors and these results to be monitored i.e. just like the council offer when you have noisey neighbours

Tier 1a:Third-party facilitation

10. At various points in the process (starting with the development of design principles at Step 1b) the CAA suggests that voluntary use of a third-party facilitator could be useful. Should the CAA be more prescriptive as to how and when a facilitator could be used?

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No
Don't know
Facilitator further detail
who is chosen why how independent are they

11. Are there any other places in the process at which you feel that a facilitator would be useful?

Facilitator - which places
I cant say - you must be open and honest as its our money which pays for a listening consultation....not the exports profiteering.

Tier 1a: Categorisation of responses

12. In paragraphs 177 and C34-C36, and Table C2, we discuss the categorisation of consultation responses. The sponsor is required to sort consultation responses into two categories: i) those responses that have the potential to impact on the proposal because they include new information or ideas that the sponsor believes could lead to an adaptation in a lead design option or a new design option, and ii) those that do not. Is the CAA's explanation of the categorisation exercise and description of the categories sufficient?

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Yes
Ticked No
Don't know
Categorisation - additional detail
why does it have to be new ideas or information - the changes luton made on their won and subsequent planes have been blasting St Albans for over a year , people have been complaining and these all got wiped off as luton/CAA reset complaint windows etc etc- why is that not good information to be taken into account? it certainly makes me think this is all a sham - why should people need to complain at all for it to be understood that we don't live near luton, don't make money from their planes and don't want them changed to route over our houses because its a short cut to the med ?

Tier 1a: Options appraisal

13. In paragraph E25 and E34 the CAA states that methodologies for the various aspects of the options appraisal should be agreed between the CAA and the sponsor at an early stage in the process, on a case-by-case basis. This provides flexibility for different local circumstances. Does this approach strike the right balance between proportionality and consistency?

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Yes
Ticked No
Don't know
OA - explain re proportionality
where's the local people affected in this?

Tier 1a: Safety information

14. At each stage in the airspace change process that an options appraisal takes place, the sponsor will be required to submit a safety assessment. The sponsor will be required to provide a plain English summary of the safety assessment and the CAA will provide a plain English summary of its review (i.e. of the Letter of Acceptance, which forms the CAA’s review of the safety assessment) when it makes a decision. These documents will be available on the portal.   Do you have any views on specific information that should be included and/or excluded from the plain English summary of the sponsor’s safety assessment and the CAA’s review? 

Safety assessment
what does safety assessment even mean? safe for me to live under these planes/ to breath their fumes? even the question isn't plain English

Tier 1b: Temporary airspace changes

15. Considering Tier 1b changes, to what extent does the draft guidance on temporary airspace changes meet the following criteria?

Comprehensible – it is clear to me what happens
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Transparent – the activities are explained well and will take place as publicly as possible
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Proportionate – the guidance strikes the right balance between detail as to what should happen, and flexibility to allow for different local circumstances
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
How to improve
plain English targeted at me as a affected resident in St Albans please i.e. my county,hertfordshire, makes no money from Bedfordshires luton airport but yet they blast us with their dirty noise planes.

Tier 1c: Operational airspace trials

16. Considering Tier 1c changes, to what extent does the draft guidance on operational airspace trials meet the following criteria?

Comprehensible – it is clear to me what happens
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Transparent – the activities are explained well and will take place as publicly as possible
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Proportionate – the guidance strikes the right balance between detail as to what should happen, and flexibility to allow for different local circumstances
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
How to improve
plain English targeted at me as a affected resident in St Albans please i.e. my county,hertfordshire, makes no money from Bedfordshires luton airport but yet they blast us with their dirty noise planes.

Tier 1: Spaceflights

17. On 21 February 2017 the Government published the Draft Spaceflight Bill. As the foreword to the draft Bill sets out, “This legislation will see the Department for Transport and the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, the UK Space Agency, the Civil Aviation Authority and the Health and Safety Executive working together to regulate and oversee commercial spaceflight operations in the UK.” Do you have any views on whether this process could be used or adapted to suit future airspace change proposals to enable spaceflights, as anticipated in the Draft Spaceflight Bill?

Spaceflight
If you can make noise and pollution and money with our full recourse - does it matter what you are doing it for? I think if I stated a loud music festival next to your house...and said "don't worry - its employing lots of people, and making us lots of money" that you would ever be satisfied with any reasons it may or may not be "consultative" when its so obvious its bullying of the people by corporate greed - and highly un environmentally friendly to boot.

Tier 2: Permanent and planned redistribution

18. The Government proposals talk about a Tier 2 change as one which is likely to alter traffic patterns below 7,000 feet over a populated area and which therefore could have a potential noise impact for those on the ground. The key requirement is that the air navigation service provider must demonstrate that it has assessed the noise impact of the proposed change and engaged with affected communities as appropriate. Which stages of the Tier 1a airspace change process do you think are necessary for a proposal categorised as a Tier 2 change? Please select all those which apply:

Please select all that apply
Stage 1 Define
Stage 2 Develop and assess
Stage 3 Consult
Stage 4 Update and submit
Stage 5 Decide
Stage 6 Implement
Stage 7 Post-implementation review
None of these
Ticked Don’t know
Tier 2 reasons
are you kidding? is this an exam? of course its all of them but chiefly I ask: For plain English targeted at me as a affected resident in St Albans please i.e. my county,hertfordshire, makes no money from Bedfordshires luton airport but yet they blast us with their dirty noise planes.

19. The CAA’s process for Tier 1a changes is scaled into ‘Levels’, based on the altitude-based priorities in the Government’s Air Navigation Guidance (i.e. where noise impacts are to be prioritised or considered alongside carbon emissions, a more demanding consultation is required). Could the future Tier 2 process also be scaled?

Tier 2 - scaled reasons
this is truly the worst thing I have ever had to fill in without getting a qualification for doing so

20. Are there any other comments that you would like to make about the CAA’s potential Tier 2 process?

Tier 2 - other comments
plain English targeted at me as a affected resident in St Albans please i.e. my county,hertfordshire, makes no money from Bedfordshires luton airport but yet they blast us with their dirty noise planes.

Tier 3: Other changes to air operations affecting noise impacts

21. To what extent does the draft best practice guidance on Tier 3 changes (other changes that may have a noise impact) meet the following criteria?

Comprehensible – it is clear to me what happens
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Transparent – the activities are explained well and will take place as publicly as possible
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
Proportionate – the guidance strikes the right balance between detail as to what should happen, and flexibility to allow for different local circumstances
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1: the guidance is good and meets this criterion 2: the guidance mostly meets this criterion Ticked 3: the guidance does not sufficiently meet this criterion
How to improve
plain English targeted at me as a affected resident in St Albans please i.e. my county,hertfordshire, makes no money from Bedfordshires luton airport but yet they blast us with their dirty noise planes.

22. Where industry does not follow the CAA’s guidance in respect of Tier 3 changes, or where there is a clear breakdown of trust between an airport and its stakeholders, is it appropriate for the CAA to publicly draw attention to this?

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Ticked Yes
No
Don't know
CAA action on Tier 3 further detail
not just draw attention - close them down !

23. Considering the list of potential information proposed, would you suggest any additions which would help stakeholders, including communities, understand the impacts of Tier 3 changes and enhance transparency?

Additional information on Tier 3 impacts
maybe consult with them?

24. In relation to mitigating the impacts of Tier 3 changes, our draft guidance says that the focus should be on exploring the options for mitigating the change through two-way dialogue, because of the local and often incremental nature of Tier 3 changes. Does the guidance need to give more detail?

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Yes
Ticked No
Don't know
Tier 3 mitigation - reasons for Q24 answer
just wants plain English